this is totally not written as a way to replace the original crucios post. rip in peace.
anyways, a bit of context behind this and what exactly “petekey” is because to be fair, not a lot of people do. so if you’re reading this, you’re probably an mcr fan, fob fan or both.
pete wentz is the bassist and frontman of fall out boy and many other things but that’s what he’s well known for.
mikey way is the bassist of my chemical romance and little brother of emo icon gerard way
also don’t harass mikey or pete or any of their family members/band mates/friends about this. it’s disrespectful and annoying.
now, that we have that out of the way, let’s get on with it.
pete and mikey allegedly met as early as 2003 when my chemical romance played in the fireside bowl in chicago. heychris cites meeting up with mcr in january of 2003 where he, pete, joe and patrick saw them live. gerard followed up at the chicago show at UIC in 2005 onstage saying that fob were mcr’s first fans in chicago.
we have warped tour 2004 where both my chem and fob performed on the side stages – teal and maurice. at this point, this is the first time that my chem and fall out boy are seen crossing paths with each other and talking. they vaguely referenced seeing each other’s shows. pete mentioned in an interview later on that he would go into the crowd and be able to watch other bands like my chem perform.
they don’t mention each other for a while. fob went on to record and release from under the cork tree. as this goes on, pete would continue to blog and continue to do his q&a’s. while there aren’t really any references to mikey, pete enjoyed to throw in lines from my chem songs into a few of his answers on the website. a lot of it predates warped tour and it’s all roughly around the beginning of march going into april.
on april 16th 2005, mikey was spotted at the fueled by ramen show at the house of blues in orlando watching fall out boy. he was also wearing a white denim jacket. yes, the white denim jacket. which actually belongs to pete (as far as anyone knows, anyway).
so it’s probably safe to assume that they were friends. around this time as well is where “sweet little dudes” is brought up in the q&a. sweet little dudes wasn’t brought up frequently but any mention of mikey brings up sweet little dudes, or sld for short. if you followed mcr for a while then you would know that sweet little dudes is a phrase that mikey used prior to pete to describe people or when gerard/the band would use it to describe mikey.
the term sweet little dudes would be thrown around a lot in interviews by pete at the mention of mikey, pete became to obsessed with the term that he even made a t-shirt with the term on it. “sweet little dudes” isn’t just what they call each other, sweet little dudes is a gang that both mikey and pete are in (along with a few others).
here are some q&a highlights from both 2004 and 2005. the mcr references are from 2004 while more of the references about mikey are from 2005 before warped tour started.
most of these reference mcr and/or sweet little dudes, chronological going from oldest to newest
Q: We want to have sex with Gerard Way. And I mean full blown pumping his gas while he is handcuffed to the bed sex. Care to hook a couple of sistas up?
A: me and mikey way have a gang called The Sweet Little Dudes. you might see us on warped tour.
Q: After your show in Des Moines, during all of the picture taking, squealing, and autograph signing, I took a picture with you (Pete). Upon realizing I was far too tall, I made a comment along the lines of “I am an ogre” or something like that, and you responded in a very sweet way. Anyway, to my question- what is your ideal height for a girl?
A: i have always kind of been a little dude (hence our gang sweet little dudes)- i have no ideal height for a girl. i have dated girls taller and shorter than me. my favorite is the same size so we can share clothes but i’ll take a tall lady if she’ll spoon me and keep me warm at night.
Q: Pete, kisses on the forehead or kisses in the rain?
A: kisses on the forehead are for grandmas and sick kids. in the rain. “im so dirty babe”
Q: Pete, whats your take on Jersey?… oh and whos your favorite band ever to come out of jersey?
A: i love new jersey and jersey girls have cute accents. favorite jersey bands in order: bon jovi springsteen lifetime old savestheday my chemical romance the early november new saves the day midtown
Q: are there any bands fob fights with? you know, like a 50 cent ja rule type of thing?
A: yeah… why else do you think my chemical romance wears bullet proof vests? cause we aim ourz gatz at they facez
Q: peter, would you ever date someone 13 years younger then you? or at least be friends with them? p.s you are hot and i love you
A: i don’t want to go to jail. im little and i think i would get passed around like a pack of cigarettes. but thank you that is really sweet. i don’t really want to do pushups in a drag…
Q: For real, do you and my chemical romance not get along? If so, this is upsetting
A: no, actually they are some of our best friends, me and mikey have a gang called “the sweet little dudes”. that was a joke hence all the use of words with “z” instead of “s”
Q: I have a favor to ask. Could you pretty please thank My Chemical Romance for me?! during there set at the tweeter, some asshole punched my friend corey in the ribs w/brass knuckles. gerard noticed him on the floor and the band stopped playing & didnt start again until they were sure he was out safe on a stretcher. anywho… you guys rocked the other day. and the crowd was the best of all the ones i was in throughout the day. everyone was definitly looking out for each other. and it was just… awesomely rad. its tru… theres nothing like driving towards the skyline.
A: i think we’re gonna have to set up a seperate q and a just for our my chem questions and requests. good thing they are good friends of ours… and thanks for the nice words.
Q: How do you feel about being nominated for the MTV2 awarad? How do you feel about being nominated along with your friends My Chemical Romance?
A: we’re excited that our fans like the video and we are happy for my chem… just a little sibling rivalry but it is all in good fun…
Q: did mikey rub it in your face that they were number 1 on trl on friday?
A: me and mikey are in a gang called the sweet little dudes. there is no competition. we are happy when our friends are doing well.
mcr and fob played bamboozle together that year, where pete posted a livejournal entry in early may describing things that were getting him “hot and bothered” :
1. having a crush on someone i speak to near daily.
2. white denim jackets.
mikey was also spotted sidestage for both days for fall out boy.
now, we have warped ‘05 aka
the summer of like.
(the reason as to why it’s called the summer of like will be explained later.)
god, this is where we go IN.
fob and mcr played the same stage (the bishop stage) that warped and were often spotted watching each other from the sidelines. mikey was also hanging around the clandestine tent and sported some sick clandestine merch as well. this is also where the white denim jacket made a reappearance.
then this is where pete posted his first blogpost after warped started.
Tuesday, June 28, 2005
Amazing new mexico sunset. I’m hanging on a bridge with my friend mikey way from my chem. Its all orange and pink above us. We went to another waterpark again. I love high fives again. Totally back in love. Saw the most amazing movie… I think its called spirited away. Watch it. – Peterpan
The next entry he makes is on the fourth of july then he closes with hot and miserable but totally in love.
And there’s this other July 4th entry and I am thinking… thoughts
July 4, 2005
your number one with a bullet:
i love the way you have with me.
i love william beckett. like a boy loves a boy.
i love this one girl. she makes me swoon.
i love your tired eyes trying to keep up with us on stage.
i love the way youre gonna make me an honest man.
and im kinda easy on the eyes sometimes, right?
i love being up at 9 am.
i love the night.
i love living forever.
i love summer.
i am loving this.
and you and everything.
you cant miss me, baby boy, we’re doing big things.
thanks for always being the bestfriends and fans we could ever have.
“I love your tired eyes trying to keep up with us on stage” mikey and pete often watched each other perform with their bands so this could be ya know SOMETHING
And baby boy?? God,
“I love summer. I am loving this. And you and everything.” Pete was so in love , leaving him must have hurt but we mustn’t talk about that just yet.
afterwards there’s a period of time where pete makes extremely cryptic journal entries so make what you will with these.
Thursday, July 7, 2005
hey beauties. hotness on warped tour. checking in. just stealing an internet signal from our friends in My Chem. speaking of, we are really excited to have them on the TRL countdown with us! good music is taking over again. [cut him talking about TRL such] i heart leslie simon. go listen to maximo park before you fall asleep. it will make you smile and miss someone/something you love. “i sleep with my hands across my chest and dream of you with someone else…” keep on living (forever).
note: the maximo park song he is referencing here is called ‘going missing’, and it has some of the most beautiful song lyrics. i highly recommend you listening and reading up on the lyrics ;D
Monday, July 11, 2005
Soooo its been a dramafree summer so far which is amazing. Almost as good as swimming pools and sleepovers. I’m watching the notebook does that make me sucky? Circle y or n. I need to take a shower. Nobody likes a dirty boy.
Friday, July 15, 2005
Though I am over hearing your thoughts on haircuts and pants. I’m over us trying to be perfect tens for your little eyes. We don’t care what you think of us. Listen to a song and time your heartbeat. Let it be okay to fall asleep slow tonight. Think about a good friend. Think about god. Think about death. Think about someone elses hand clumsily on your belt in the dark. Think it will be okay. No more rants No more poetry Not tonight. True love for the believers. Thank you. Keep on l i/o ving posted by: peterpumpkineater “Perfect tens for your little eyes” and “We don’t care what you think of us” always felt like a stab at the media since Pete was always big in the tabloids (good or bad but hey, any publicity is good publicity, right?) Unfortunately as Fall Out Boy grew in fame, the tabloids only got worse. The last line about the belt too feels reminiscent of the recurrent lines about waists up/down in Fall Out Boy. Wentz has also famously referred to himself as gay above the waist, saying “anything above the waist is fair game”.
Sunday, July 24, 2005
Sometimes when you’re feeling this blue the right smile can save you.
posted by: peter
sweet, right? sigh, that boy was whipped. so there are some entries that pete posted on the fueled by ramen website between the entries above.
July 19, 2005
wrote you a goodbye note (you just wrote me off) on your arm when you passed out. bestfriends, exfriends- better off as lovers not the other way around. racing through the city in the back of yellow checkered cars. the takeoffs are the worst but the skin from your shoulder to your ear makes it all worth it. and im sorry the way my moods flicker on and off like old light on your porch, but i know you wouldn’t have it any other way. sneaking in your window instead of out. the way you hold a cigarette cause you don’t know what to do with your hands when we are sitting this close. the way the waists of pants feel better at the ankles. the way you always were my best excuse for calling in sick on everyone else. i miss you.
this entry is the beginning and chorus of bang the doldrums, which was originally titled as “The Summer of Like”. The lipstick line being added to imply that it’s about a girl plus the waists of pants feeling better at the ankles line when he’s been quoted saying “gay above the waist”. interesting.
July 21, 2005
lately i’ve been into believing fictional stories like the ones about me and you being happy. they’ve gotta be science fiction because how else can you have a monster fall in love with a boy with no heart? actually i’m pretty sure you have a heart, but i’m just as certain it’ll never be mine. i can tell you’re willing to be loved somewhere on the inside but that doesn’t do me any good when i’m still seeing things through thick curtains over windows and padlocked doors on the outside. bitter regrets, predictable forfeits. we lit a fire that was nothing but smoke and hot air. ashes. my hands are empty and you hold all the cards, kind of funny how you don’t even want them/me. the final nail in my coffin stabbed me in the heart – from my back. you once made my heart skip a beat, now you make it want to skip this. you’ve got salty mails ripping my wounds open that you’re telling me to let heal. Love is a mirage, you only think it’s there for so long..til you either wise up or die of hydration. love is the way to blow your brains out minus the gun, i swear. it’s the stupidest form of suicide cause you don’t die. and whatever doesn’t kill you only laughs at you for coming close enough to. sorry, it’s just the bitterness talking. ignore it/me. i’m just loose words hanging on the ends of your lips, even looser when i’m anywhere near your hips. poetry written from blistered fingertips and sleep deprived eyes that was better before the ink dried. He said, “I should have stayed with her,” and I should have stayed away. held together by paperclips and lies, a part of me is still trying to pretend i was (mis)hearing things but even the voices in my head aren’t that mean to me. and them “i’m sorry,” too late, i’m a better (re)actor than the one you’re being to convince me. i’m just convinced that telemarketers are the only people with more hang ups than me. you called this before you knew the number, and hung up before you got a response. tell me any of this will get me somewhere worth being without being left behind. i tried, i gave it/you my all, but all i can do is give up. i don’t tell you my insecurities so you can use them against me, but help me get over them. instead you said and did the worst thing you could do. worse than cheating to me, i hope you know. but whatever i don’t even know, i guess sometimes it takes losing what you had to see what you didn’t.
Sooo yeah, this is where I actually admit I’m tired, and I go to bed. sweet. goodnight.
this is pretty self-explanatory and easily one of the most heartbreaking entries to date. pete was absolutely destroyed.
anyways, during this warped, my chem and fob would often switch out members of their bands when performing onstage. mikey would take over for pete when pete would sing with the crowd, ray would replace joe for some time as joe left for some time during warped. and you’d often see my chem or fob members on the sidelines of each other’s shows. most notably, pete watching mikey.
during warped they reportedly refused to be photographed together and according to fans, they were seen wandering the grounds together a lot. one fan reported: “at my warped date i got there early in the morning and hung out by the fob bus because i wanted to get a pic with patrick and around 10 am the door opened and a very tired looking mikey stepped off with pete right behind him and they appeared to be holding hands until they saw the people around and they both refused to have their pictures taken together”. They also had a bodyguard that kept fans from talking to them.
there were also reports of pete dedicated songs to mikey a whole lot and there happens to be a video of this from a show in 2005 but the show got cut due to crazy fans. the video is also of really bad quality and you can’t hear much. if you look up “Fall Out Boy Warped Detroit” it’ll show up. pete would dedicate songs to “Mikey Revenge” which later became mikey’s myspace name. and at the same show where pete dedicated “tell that mick” to mikey revenge was the show where mikey played bass for saturday.
additionally, pete made a shirt for clandestine that said “I Love Revenge”.
August 26, 2005
on pete’s friends or enemies blog
i wish you were my bass not just my friend.
god, could you BE anymore obvious??? this was posted post-warped when he and mikey weren’t in the same place/together.
and when a fan recounted their time at warped tour, they mentioned that when meeting pete, he had told them that mikey was his favorite member.
August 19, 2005
The Warped tour was fun. Since being home I remembered that showering and sleeping are fun too. My real feelings on the sunburst bass. I loved that thing. But then it started cheating on me in a mikey way. I had to hit it. It’s not my fault- spousal abuse is an ugly thing. I’m in therapy that includes playing lots of warcraft online. Writing messages on your arm for someone to see at a show is the new away message – stealing peoples real diary is the new livejournal.
this one is interesting cuz there’s so much to unpack here but we’ll be focusing on the writing messages line as it is rumored that pete wrote the words seen on mikey’s arm in these pictures.
some smaller petekey details that i’d like to include is the petekey mickey mouse, shared between mikey and pete during warped.
some of pete’s away messages during this time.
and pete’s mikey way pin on his love can’t save you hoodie. god, can you be anymore obvious.
And in this interview with pete, you can see him wearing the “sweet little dudes” shirt and something is written on his arm in red. It’s a bit smudged but I’m pretty sure it says sweet little dudes.
Bang the doldrums . I wrote a goodbye note in lipstick on your arm? Did they write little messages for each other since we already have mikey’s “fucked” and “easy” and pete’s lipstick message.
so we know that from under the cork tree was released may 3rd of 2005 but that era extends into infinity on high and there has been some speculation that “i slept with someone from fall out boy and all i got…” is about mikey however, i find it to be highly unlikely because of time-frame. but you can totally look up the lyrics and interpret however you like.
so in september, pete posted this.
September 4, 2005
on the getaway car, the rush of blood to the head: it’s strange to find myself again back at the feelings of the blue cover after going through the red and the gold. it’s kind of always like that. i am sorry if i am not making any sense. but everybody likes to take chances and make bets. i always put my money on the longshots. and no matter where my head was in the world i always dreamed of waking up next to the biggest brown eyes i have ever seen/‘me and you underneath the honeymoon’. “go back to what it meant back then”: and you imagine yourself moving deep into the summer and disappearing, and for me it was always with you. and then things got crazy. you stopped calling me back. i stopped trying to call but not in my head. and then you got malicious but i’m guessing only because you learned from the best- take back your taste and all. i never thought it would be just me again. but that’s okay. we’re gonna hole up and wait it out. I feel like I can see for the first time, like I was born just at the last minute. wake me up. baby boy, you’re gonna be okay. hearts between our knees sticking to the summer sheets. are you catching my drift…. it’s gonna be alright. your love would be hell but it’s just not hot enough baby.
so this entry refers to to “Champagne for my Real Friends, Real Pain for my Sham Friends” so i guess, this is where theories about some songs from futct are about mikey but pete is very vague and cryptic. the title could be real vs fake friends type situations and he saw mikey to be a “real friend”. the “brown eyes” most likely refers to mikey’s brown eyes. this post also has a line to the chorus of “i’m like a lawyer…” he feels as if he’s been ghosted by mikey and the “baby boy” and “summer sheets” line really hits the nail on the head for this one.
November 23, 2005
I wrote you a letter a few hours ago that I never intended to give you in the first place and then ripped it up and threw it away because it’s much too personal to say on paper. even over a phone. the words i said in it i need to say to you in person. i guess it felt better to write it all out. It’s easier to say “I only need 5 seconds with you than a lifetime with someone else” than it is to live it. to be honest, i’m dying from it. “kiss me electric” vs “kiss me at all.” and when you do it’s just a kiss off. i’m really not ready for what you want from me, but with how you’re never around it makes me wonder what you really do want from me. honestly, it sure doesn’t feel like much. i said i’d be fine if you gave me a little note or a call once and a while, once a day even, just something to keep hanging onto, but you can’t even do that so yeah… i don’t know. Am I being ridiculous? it’s just hard for me to keep going like this… my heart is lots easier to fool than me. i think that’s what makes this so hard.
December 22, 2005
I love how I thought this was all over and I have to face the same two months replayed for the rest of my life.
my head and heart are beating the shit out of me trying to see what hurts worse.
kinda like us.
summer wasn’t hot enough but i had hoped winter was gonna be the coolest.
I obviously thought wrong.
you and me are the last hot day in summer. we’re just fading before the fall.
the last two posts contain summer imagery and the line “the same two months replayed for the rest of my life” makes me feel some type of way.
but now, we learn that mikey and pete are still friends as pete stated in a q&a from 2005.
asked by Meghan! on 2005-11-13 17:05:00
hey! I was just wondering, how good are you friends with Mikey??
answered by peter on 2005-11-13 17:07:00
me and mikey are not in just one gang together, we are in two: the sweet little dudes and the fraternal order of the handsome boy. I call him the duke of handsomeness.
now, as you see this is the second gang that pete mentioned that he and mikey were in (also duke of handsomeness?? god)
so at the end of 2005, mikey got engaged to guitar tech, merch seller and bassist, alicia simmons (who also happened to have allegedly pulled pete as well or they were just really close friends but do what you want with that info). note that alicia has said that she and mikey were not together during warped ’05 so *eye emoji* yardy prolly know wtf going ooooooon.
on february 19, 2006, we got this gem on pete’s friends or enemies journal.
then on that morning we get this entry.
i feel like howl from howls moving castle embodies every single feeling that goes through my head. that is all. i am in the lobby of a hotel in new york city waiting for something that isn’t ever going to happen. i am calculating all of the legs and drunken stutters. i am precise. i am a machine. i am a hot mess.
we know that howl’s moving castle is very important to pete as he has a tattoo of howl and sophie. howl is a kind and generous wizard and often creates rumors and lies about himself to keep his privacy, opting to live alone and hides from conflict. he also falls in love with sophie who is another protagonist in the movie.
also peep the “lobby of a hotel in new york city” line is interesting, but we’ll get into that later.
ALSO WAITING FOR SOMETHING THAT ISN’T EVER GOING TO HAPPEN HITS SO DIFFERENT AHHHHH
anyways, we get into the juiciest parts as i have obtained footage of this >:3c
the saved latin show.
so about a month later on march 4th 2006, mikey attended the absolut kravitz launch party in new york city with pete, joe and a few others. then the next day, fall out boy played a secret show under the fake name “saved latin” and during this show, they brought up travie mccoy from gym class heroes, pat saccenti and mikey way.
mikey way had this to say about the show.
“so you see? MCR’s really pumped about their newest work, they don’t want us to see it before it’s finished. So, we all have to be VERY PATIENT till this fall to see MCR’s newest work and hopefully, the answer to all our questions. This has happened before with David Bowie and Fall Out Boy, who last September (I think) performed a secret show under the name Saved Latin, in which the guys in (MCR) ended up attending and Mikey said this: ‘Ps…. We went to see this band called “Saved Latin” the other night at the Knitting Factory. They really need to stop copying off of Fall Out Boy. Sheesh! The nerve of some people….’
So there it is. I am finished. Hopefully, we’ll get an answer soon to all our questions. Hope Gee and Bob get better soon. They’re injuries (well from what I heard) are pretty damn bad. Goodbyes!”
but before mikey was brought up onstage, pete, the band and the crowd sang happy birthday to a fan in the crowd and after that was over, he introduced mikey by saying “i’ve read a lot of internet erotica about this guy before”
GOD PETE WHAT THE FUCK
then brings up mikey to play dance, dance for them. it’s not the clearest of videos but it’s a video. btw did you see that moment between mikey and joe? blush emoji
and we also happened to be blessed with these photos from that night + the setlist
peep this mf in mikey’s glasses, god ,
this photo is an absolute treasure.
the boyfriend photo.
note: mikey is wearing pete’s clandestine gloves.
But before the saved latin show, pete’s pics were also leaked. and uh, if you don’t know what that is well, that’s where we get into
the heychris drama.
so heychris is an old friend of fall out boy. heychris was also the bassist in pete’s old band arma angelus (you should give them a listen, they’re pretty rad) and he also happens to be the heychris from fall out boy’s song grenade jumper.
so the pictures that i was talking about earlier are pete’s nudes. please don’t look at them out of respect for him as they were leaked without his consent and embarrassed him. anyways, the relationship between chris and the pics are actually pretty muddy as there was a lot of speculation over who leaked the pics but many people were assuming it was heychris because before the photos were leaked, heychris posted a lj entry to pete. he was angry that pete was hitting on his girlfriend apparently among other things in “an open letter to pete wentz from an old friend.”
February 28, 2006.
an open letter to pete wentz from an old friend.
[Current Music |the promise – crush all fakes.]
it takes a lot to make me mad.
it takes even more to infuriate me.
so, after all this time i finally learned the truth. that it was you telling my ex girlfriend lies and secrets. despite even giving you the pass card after i caught you trying to talk dirty to her online, this is how you repay me? no wonder why you couldnt look me in the eye on the bus last summer and no wonder why you avoided me every chance you got.
you hug me and tell me you love me then you tell lies to my girlfriend behind my back to lure her away from me? you tell her i cheat on her and then you tell me to come stay on the bus?
you are a spineless fucking sham.
i regret every second i spent defending you and your selfish ways.
dont forget, i know you. not that shitty glammed up poser image you present to the masses to consume. the dude i knew never would have worn a fucking dinosaur shirt or sold out one of his friends. the dude i knew had heart and fucking loyalty. well lil buddy, you are fucking done.
you want to sell me out to the most important person in my life and then have the audacity to make ME think I did something wrong to not deserve your friendship? you fucking arrogant bastard.
since we’re discussing sellouts lets discuss how when kids give you presents you laugh at them and throw it straight in the trash. oh yeah, ive seen it many times. lets talk about how you talk shit about the fat girls that are your fans and mock their letters. you are fucking undeserving of every ounce of attention you’ve ever gotten. from every one of your calculated business moves to your “spontaneous” jumps in the crowd parts to your well rehearsed cliche lines you’ve been spouting for 400 shows in a row. you’re boring, contrived and old. “oooh, no one loves me, its sooo hard being on magazine covers and tv shows. someone save me from me.” what are you, fucking 12? go light your little candles ask yourself why no one will ever truly love you. its amazing no one has caught on to your little fucking show. you’re nothing more than a shitty opportunist business man with even shittier fashion sense.
so pack up and move to whatever million dollar house you’ve picked out in california paid for by your lies and hypocrisy and deceit and selfishness and over medicate yourself like youve been doing for years…because guess what? no one wants you here anymore. you are not welcome.
oh yeah, hows that straight edge tattoo doing? as well as the tattoo for your “crew” who now refer to you as a fraud and a con? stay gold dude, stay gold.
remember this each night of the tour when you play the lie, “hey chris, you were our only friend.”
downplay it all you want by saying the song is about “friends”, but guess whos fucking name you’re saying each and every night? mine. thats right. what a bunch of fucking phonies. sing the songs you dont even believe in anymore. fucking liar.
you know the friends i have and you know how we feel about loyalty.
you know who im talking about and you know they’re not happy either.
so dont get caught slipping and you better make damn sure you watch whos on your guest list because a plus one might come backstage to punch your fucking teeth out and tear the windpipe from your throat.
you fucking sell out.
oh, and next time you decide to write another song about me, do it right you fucking coward.
and in response, pete wrote this.
oh what a monster we’ve created.
when i am called by my manager to read a post that is burning through the internet it makes me wonder. ive never responded to rumours or shittalking online, no matter who it came from- at the same time there is nothing that makes my blood boil more than reading this- being who i am, my first instinct is to blow it off- but then i consider how anytime anything is written on the internet people believe its true- no matter what, no matter the biases or subjectivity of the sources. my first instinct is to lash out- to say everything i think about you and every situation- to defend myself and attack you. as unbelievable as it is- i am an extremely insecure person- everytime i read something about myself negative or positive i react in probably the exact same way anyone would.
but like i said- i am going to continue to do this my own way, what i consider to be the higher road. i understand when we get angry we often lash out- ive done it myself on many occassions. if you want to talk to me about any of this call me on my cell phone and we can do it one on one-
i will not be responding to anything else-
however, the attacks about our fans and the people that listen to this music and read these words is completely offbase- the fans of this band are my entire life- ive lost my girlfriend, my friends, much of my “normal” life- just to keep this relationship going- this isn’t to say that i dont make mistakes, take misteps. just because youve seen me on tv or at a show doesn’t make me anything less or more than human. you dont ever see the other side of the way we agonize over every decision we make or try our best to please everyone- because we’ve given up in bands before and we know how it feels and we dont want that to happen. everyone in the band is upset about this- remember everyone that makes up fall out boy- they all wanted me to voice that we appreciate our fans and friends that weve met more than anything- and that we realize because of where we are all the arrows are pointed at us- but we will try our best. and we do try our best. we also, have far more faith in the intelligence and dedication of the people that believe in us to think that they will be swayed easily. if you want to hear other stories of how we actually talk about our fans or think of them please ask other bands, they will testify to how we really act. we just want you to know that in four years when noone cares, we still hope you are there. im not going to freak out or whatever, but please an attack on our fans or our relationship with them as a p.r. move is uncalled for.
this doesn’t need to be reposted anywhere- i am sure that fob fans know where to find it.
chris if you want to talk the phone line is there.
i wrote this pretty fast so i apologize for the typos and run-ons.
until then, thank you to everyone who reserves judgment and has my back until the end of time.
not long after pete’s response, heychris posted:
i wont lie. i hate being this dude.
i wish it wouldnt have come to this but goddamn, hes right.
no one knows how to break a heart like he does.
after that whole mess seemed to be cleared up, heychris posted that he went to california and fell for a boy with a girlfriend and another post where he found a new love which is when these photos of him and mikey had surfaced.
pete posted an angry away message shortly after this happened.
(also apparently this lyric in thnks fr th mmrs is about heychris “who does he think he is” / if that’s the worst you got, better put your fingers back to the keys”)
heychris later posted that this was all a joke and that he meant no harm by it.
the way that I see it is that heychris wanted to get back at pete for pete trying to flirt/steal his girlfriend so he used mikey as a way to get back at pete. which means that chris saw mikey as someone pete cared about a whole lot and someone that he possibly had/have feelings for that were strong enough or equivalent to that of a significant other.
nobody really knew how mikey felt about this whole situation, whether he was angry, or upset wasn’t found anywhere. apparently, chris used these photos as a big fuck you to those who used the word gay as an insult. as far as anyone knew, mikey and alicia are really good friends with heychris so it’s impossible to say if this was to be taken as a joke or not. i couldn’t find the original post but many of the comments talked about how mikey was “outed” and variations of those types of comments. mikey and chris seem to still be good friends as chris posted these infamous photos on his Instagram, mikey commenting on it as well.
(pete and chris aren’t mutuals on ig, but mikey and chris and mikey and pete are so take that with what you will?)
when pete’s nudes were leaked, mikey defended him on his myspace.
Wednesday, March 8, 2006 fucking savages… Don’t sweat it kiddo…just look on the bright side,…you helped usher alot of young ladies into woman-hood tonight. secondly, would everyone leave the poor guy alone already? Everyone wonders what drives people in bands “over the edge” or into a “meltdown”…its shit like this. How would you like it if someone posted “risque” pics of you online. Have some tact people. fuckin weak. PS: Los Angeles will bury you alive
pete later thanked him, “i just wanted to take the time to thank the people who continually stand by my side-a special thanks to http://absolutepunk.net and mikey way for being amazing.”
Post-Warped Pt 2.
pete posted a string of sad livejournal entries after this.
May of 2006, Pete wrote an entry (titled friends that lay together, stay together or how the thoughts in my head go, unfiltered) that began with this:
forgive me for not showing more remorse
apologies were never really my thing- outside of feeling sorry for myself. the last nail in your coffin got stuck in the mail. youre gonna have to wait. until then focus on love below the waist. they say your head can be a prison- consider this a conjugal visit.
this has taken absolutely everything out of me.
Then on pete’s birthday…
Monday, June 05, 2006
Stick around long enough and everyone becomes parody of themselves (see also: if it could happen to the egyptians if could happen to you).
you dont hate me, you hate the part of you that is like me. i cant sit here and ride my flaws until the end because the truth is i live the charmed life because of you and them. we are a gang. maybe its time to disband. im not sure i am thinking clearly but i just want you to know that i waited on you guys calls all night- they never came. i just wanted to say i miss you or im sorry or you know something that would have meant something to you. i would have made it poetic and memorable or at least something you could laugh at while drifting off to sleep. always trying to relive the glory days.
i dont care how poorly these sentences were constructed or how in the light of day i will wish i had not written them- right now i can only curse the fucking light off of this stupid western city because it wont ever get dark enough for sleep but otherwise how could you guide your way back here?
my head always feels warm right before i pass out, i always worry that there is something wrong and i wont wake up or you know i will. promise me that you wont take anything i ever say too seriously.
Friday, July 07, 2006
im so sorry, but not really. (‘straighten up and die right’)
i said i want to be rebuilt like a frank lloyd wright only without all of the water damage. or painted over like a monet only less blurry. she said “no, youre something different”. like what? “something better”. it gave me the rush of warm blood like you see in cartoon dogs right before their eyes pop out and all of the bells go off. my head is spinning like a car off of an icy guardrail. show me what you are made of. your eyes were always rolling but youd tilt your head so they were somehow always still stuck on me (have your cake and eat it too). i feel safe but not like a bet more like the way mothers feel when the lock the car doors in bad neighborhoods. i am blue waves across the red rootlike veins in the bodies drawn flat in medical books. i wonder at the way that someone can write thousands and thousands of pages about my insides. when i met you i gave you a name- not your own- but in my head so i wouldnt ever mix you up with anyone so ordinary- i cant tell you- but to me it meant salvation. you only wanted reaction. but i cant be bothered. not anymore. ill see you in the spring. first pew on the left. wear your white veil and dont forget the words. warped tour. sun drenched days. bestfriends. new roads. so long salvation. dont worry your pretty little heads. i am sleeping safe tonight.
These references to warped, calling warped his salvation (please shut up, shut up, I am not strong enough) ALSO “ill see you in the spring. first pew on the left.” mikey and alicia got married in spring of 2007. (pain, just pain)
the fraternal order of the handsome boy.
saturday, july 08, 2006
ive been watching you from afar.my breath on the inside window as you walk in from the carcandy caned lies in red and white against clashing patterns bending in and out of understanding.”youre the stranger ive been dreaming of”, stranger than any ive ever known.love through a telescopic lens. when the air is clear i can see how perfect you are for me.late at night when the city sleeps i cast a spell on youto make you think of me the very same way i think of you.i only love how the words feel in my head when i write them.fireworks over the valley.how can i tell you i gut people for a living.that everything you say is likely to end up as evidence when i rewrite history.over and over again.how everything you do reminds me of something else, someone else.how i get paid to be humble and arrogant at the same time,to be chased and never caught.that i just want to stay up late and wake up early to talk to you.that i want to show you all of my jealousy and insecurity and have you not care.youre like a light switch and i just want to turn you on and watch them all shrink away.the words come out of my fingertips on impulse. it is instinct.my head cant keep up.i envy the comatose. i admire the bedridden.i am addicted to the way i feel when i think of you.”im blowing smoke rings around the moon….”i wish i was the exact opposite of how the world knows me.
posted by xo @ 3:25 PM
this post is literally titled the fraternal order of the handsome boy and that being the name of one of the gangs that him and mikey are in, there is no doubt in my mind that this is about mikey. ALSO THE LINE “i cast a spell on youto make you think of me the very same way i think of you.” is similar to a line in another song deemed the petekey anthem (band the doldrums) where the lyrics are “and I cast a spell over the west to make you think of me the same way I think of you”
do you hear me fucking crying!!!!
Then there’s this
friday, august 11, 2006
since j.t. is bringing sexy back, i guess i am out of a job. is borders hiring?
what is the opposite of amnesia? because that is what i have.
sometimes i cant find my way around my memories.
i have to take detours.
i think you were the best one.
its like it was never really going anywhere and alot of breakdowns but really it made for the best trip.
its strange to land here and be completely out of place.
but at the same time not really.
never really felt like i understood anything anyone was saying anywhere so how different can this be?
its like it always was.
i have affection imprinted deep inside my head.
its why i am always on the verge of love or giving up.
or thats what i am convinced of today- tomorrow it will be something new.
dear drugstore cowboy, the chemical balance is a bit off.
its 7 am in california, 11pm in japan.
but my head is always on central standard.
how are you gonna get your way out of this one pete?
baby you are a canary and i am a coalmine.
the moon is out and its convincing me, it has me all kinds of crazy.
maybe we’ll just go to sleep and wake up on the summer sheets i grew up on.
because how could any of this be real.
“answer the phone, i know that youre home. i want to get you alone….”
The line “baby you are a canary and i am a coalmine.” Ends up being on ive got all this ringing in my ears and none on my fingers. this implies that pete is a coalmine and the other person (the canary) is being suffocated by him/poisoned by him. also the “11pm in japan” line? mcr and fob were playing in japan at the time in Osaka and Tokyo.
sigh , this boy is not subtle at all and it contributes to the neverending pain of being a hopeless romantic.
plain jane and the boy next door.
sunday, august 27, 2006
there is one single pair of eyes that could ever decode any of this.
put another “x” on the calendar. summer is on its deathbed. there is simply nothing worse than knowing the ending- that no matter what curve balls or uphill come your way- it still turns out the same. this year its stripes and pumps, last year it was dancefloors and you. she keeps talking, i keep staying the same. did you ever change your mind about someone and then just realize it was a fucking haircut. put me in a frame on your wall, just to keep me out of trouble. i gotta say i admire bob dylan for being honest about his new record. noone ever is. its like when the ad campaign rolls out everyone is smiling and at their best even if they are not sure. an affectionate friend told me everything i ever needed to know about anything.
“freeze! put down that fucking laptop!”. everything is always either digging a hole or digging yourself out of one. and just when you have it all figured out you should just sift through your pile of “never again”s. quite a collection. blow off the dust. im sure they will be worth something to someone sometime. its buzzing in the back of your head and out of your fingertips. pull back the shade- the road outside of my house is paved with good intentions. but it is hell on the undercarriage of the car so we’re gonna have to hire a construction crew. i wonder if anyone else thinks of you as much as i do, even you.
“If I should call you up, invest a dime
And you say you belong to me and ease my mind
Imagine how the world could be, so very fine
So happy together…”
a mutual misunderstanding. kaleidoscope eyes sparkle on pillows in the dark. and i dont care what anyone thinks of that except me. put the love on hold, anticipation is on the other line and excitement called while you were out.
imagine me and you…..
– pete wentz
Okay so some lines in this post also end up on panic at the disco’s song “the calendar” which pete co-wrote.
Then pete posted this away message around this time as well.
I don’t really know when this was dated but pete posted this:
Fan: pete, being in love with your best friend: in or out in 2005/
Pete: same sex, definitely in. opposite sex was like so 90’s.
,,, eye emoji,
A girl got a hold of mikey’s screen name and saw that his away message was “sorry, this is pete wentz” and then it changes to “Haha no one bleieves me” (his typo not mine) so she decides to talk to him
valhalla boheme: why would anyone want to claim that they’re pete wentz? he has a small penis. I know i wouldn’t want to be a guy with a small dick.
Mikey: fuck you
nobody is certain whether this was actually pete or if this response came from mikey or pete so make it with what you will.
This is also around the time where a book called “my so-called punk” came out, where pete tells us:
“there are hundreds of warped tour stories but theyre all either too long or too incriminating”.
Eye emoji , okay, sir
Also, if you’re wondering whats the deal with any of the lines that talk about “above the waist” or “waists of pants”. Well. Pete has stated before that he is gay above the waist, to quote him in an AP interview: “A lot of people say that I’m gay in general. I’m an above-the-waist gay kind of guy”, and “Anything above the waist is fair game.” – just a little something to consider.
Also during this entire period, we have nothing from mikey’s side. Well, except of course this myspace entry that he wrote for an faq. Keep in mind that this was written, WRITTEN. He typed it out, looked at it, posted it and looked at it again and thought “hm, okay to keep up :)”
5) Me and pete wentz aren’t dating. We are both heterosexual males….sort of…maybe…umm…next!
Okay, time for a little break.
So a lot less things were happening regarding their friendship/relationship during this time. My chem and FOB were busy recording their albums. During the recording for tbp, mikey temporarily left the band due to a mental breakdown. He recovered, dyed and cut his hair and gotten lasik, losing the signature glasses.
Now, this is where we fast forward a bit to 2007.
bang the doldrums & infinity on high.
So in 2007, fob released infinity on high (masterpiece of an album btw, I high recommend listening) and there are a few mentions that some songs on this album, most notably band the doldrums is about mikey/warped tour/the summer of like. It was supposed to be named the summer of like before they settled on bang the doldrums. These lyrics are straight out of pete’s lj entries from the time so it’s fair game to conclude that this song is about mikey/warped tour.
The word “doldrums” means a period of stagnation/depression and for the purposes of the song, I assume it relates to the stagnation of their relationship after warped.
‘Happily ever after below the waist’ refers to Pete’s statement ‘I’m gay above the waist’.
Fall Out Boy have never played Bang the Doldrums live. Not even once.
God, so we have the rest of infinity on high to talk about and decipher since pete is a cryptic little shit.
I’ll be going over mostly the basics and well get into a more in-depth explanation of every song about mikey later in the post.
a lot of the lyrics come straight out of Pete’s ’05/’06 journal entries, but other songs from Infinity include: I’m Like A Lawyer With The Way I’m Always Trying To Get You Off (Me & You),“The Take Over, The Break’s Over”, Thnks Fr Th Mmrs, The Carpal Tunnel of Love, I’ve Got All This Ringing In My Ears And None On My Fingers, G.I.N.A.S.F.S.
G.I.N.A.S.F.S. stands for Gay Is Not A Synonym For Shitty.
As this was Fall Out Boys response to homophobes. Pete was tired of people using the word gay to mean shitty.
He said something along the lines of ‘If you think we suck, then say we suck. Don’t be homophobic.’
After THAT whole thing, nothing much happened publicly? Other than Mikey judging a karaoke night in March ’08 at Angels and Kings, a nightclub opened by and part-owned by Pete.
now we have
folie a deux.
At the end of 2008, FOB’s last album before their hiatus would be released. I’m not going to talk much about Folie because there’s not a lot to talk about in relation to Pete/Mikey. But there are some songs on there worth talking about plus the america’s suitehearts music video which I’ll get into with the rest of the song analysis at the end.
Also , Pete turned 27 in June 2006, which is the summer he posted multiple heartbreaking journal entries about warped 05. Idk if those things are in relation to 27 but there we have it.
the hiatus and twitter.
so in 2009, fall out boy went on a hiatus which sucked but twitter exists so we have some quality petekey content.
this was when you were able to put tags on you tweets.
it tastes like you.
fruit brute is their band that they’ve yet to make music for :p
they met up again for pete’s birthday where gabe responded with this.
okay so like the thing with green tea kitkats is really sweet. it was actually just a pete thing as his fave candy when visiting japan is green tea kitkats and he shared this thing with mikey and i just think that mikey remembering pete each time he visits japan and buying each other green tea tea kitkats makes me so ;; ,man.
mikey way is sweetness ;;
pardon me if some of these are out of order :(
Gabe and Ryland took over huffington post and answered this ask-
there’s also the quote from pete “One time i fell in love with a cat, and then i realized it wasn’t a human being. It was not as sexy as we thought.” It makes no sense but they’re probably connected? Idk, pete spews a lotta weird shit that mean something late but , it’s gotta mean something right?
fob hiatus and reunion.
during the hiatus, pete formed a group with bebe rexha. they didn’t relsease a lot of music but one of the songs that they did release was called “summer nights” and honestly? pain. “i only wanted fun, then you got me all messed up on love” nothing but pain. this lyric was later used for where did the party go?
and in 2013, after three years, fob came off hiatus and dropped my songs know what you did in the dark (light em up).
and about a month later my chem broke up.
save rock and roll.
after the releases of my songs… and the phoenix, save rock and rolls was released april of 2013. you can argue which songs are about mikey alone together, just one yesterday, miss missing you in particular, just are… *chefs kiss* ya know ?
after save rock and roll, they released an ep: pax am days. and there is a song on the ep is called eternal summer. so *eye emoji* ya know?
pete then posted these on his ig ;-;
‘Happy bday sweet lil dude’ and ‘One of my favourite dudes ever’
so then , we go onto this one >:333
american beauty/american psycho & fourth of july.
january 2015 was when fob released american beauty/american psycho.
and then theres this SONG
fourth of july.
other than bang the doldrums, this has a lot more direct references. There are a bunch of lyrics in the song that link to pete’s lj entries from warped. the song is also a song that takes place in the summer so *eye emoji* yeah.
AND PETE’S ‘HOT AND MISERABLE BUT TOTALLY IN LOVE’ ENTRY WAS ON THE FOURTH OF JULY *screams*
have some lyrics that feel like a punch to the face c:
You are my favorite “what if”
You are my best “I’ll never know”
This is so painful I don’t even know how to deal with it.
I wish I’d known how much you loved me
I wish I cared enough to know
I’m sorry every song’s about you
The torture of small talk with someone you used to love
we will be talking about the “i’m sorry every song’s about you” bit a bit later because BRO??? (if ur on twt then u know what im talking about)
another thing is that the day that ab/ap came out, fob tweeted this. The translation being “you were the best season of my life”
so other notable songs like twin skeletons refers to feb. 2006. like pete mentioned, he shared this about him and mikey in nyc. then on the same day he posted on the fbr journal, “i am in the lobby of a hotel in new york city waiting for something that isn’t ever going to happen.”
“there’s a room in a hotel in New York City that shares our fate and deserves our pity, I don’t want to remember it all, the promises I made if you just hold on”
Okay but like at the same time there’s speculation tht this song is about ashlee since they apparently had sex for the first time in a new York hotel so *blush emoji*
But either way it’s a song about an ex lover/someone they used to love and I think it’s important to note that mikey is the only person that pete “dated” that was around the same age as him, mikey being younger by about a year.
There are more songs on ab/ap that seem to be about mikey however, none that have direct references from pete’s blogposts. Such as that of irresistible, American beauty/American psycho, and jet pack blues.
For the lyrics in irresistible, im not French speaker but “mon cheri” is the masculine version for “my dear” in French. now, was this on purpose or was this to be a small clue into a summer romance that burned off too fast too soon?
Also pete posted this picture of mikey with the caption “The face of a man trying an oyster for the first time M Way #SLD”
Pete did my man dirty smh my head
Anyways after the breakup with mcr, mikey didn’t do much other than comics, voice acting for transformers, etc. .
mikey formed electric century with david debiak. They released for the night to control which is a really good album if you take the time to listen to it. The song that we are going to be analyzing for petekey purposes is “let you get away” also apparently david wrote a majority of the lyrics but who am I to not overanalyze these songs as mikey probably contributed to his songwriting ideas and lyrics.
“I came on the radio on your porch, playing songs that remind you of that time when you got high and stood around just talking to your girlfriends saying I was just a little more than something fine. I remember days when I was not so lost when I go soft? Now I pick my head up in the daylight, drive for miles until I hit the dead moonlight, until I am right.”
M A N I A.
so at the start of 2018, fall out boy released M A N I A.
HOLD ME TIGHT OR DON’T is most definitely the bang the doldrums/fourth of july equivalent. it hurts a lot so be prepared.
“I took too many hits off this memory,
I need to come down.”
Like pete’s created too much content based off that one summer or those two/three years where they’ve started becoming friends then getting closer, etc.
“I got too high again, realized that I can’t be with you or be just your friend. I love you to death, but I just can’t
I just can’t pretend; we were lovers first.
Confidants but never friends, were we ever friends?”
This has the same energy as bang the doldrums “ex friends, best friends till the end, better off as lovers and not the other way around” it’s saying, we were lovers before anything else. And questioning, that after everything they’ve gone through that they can never really be friends.
There are many other songs on mania that seem to be petekey like The Last of the Real Ones, Wilson (Expensive Mistakes), Church, Heaven’s Gate. Bishops knife trick is a bit more tricky as many people find a few of the lyrics to be about a past relationship which I agree with kind of plus the name of the song is the same name of the stage that fob played that summer but like , shrugs. It seems to be more about pete’s struggles than a summer romance, ya know? But that’s all up to the reader’s interpretation :p
another thing that’s important to note, there are some panic at the disco (ugh) songs that could possibly be about the summer of like/mikey as pete cowrote a lot of the songs for panic, most notably vices and virtues. The lyrics that pete would write in these songs came from his ’05 and ’06 journal entries. The calendar came straight from his post-warped journal entries. He also helped cowrite lyrics for trade mistakes, hurricane, always, stall me, oh glory, kaleidoscope eyes, and nicotine.
That’s pretty much all we have for that between mikey and pete as the two haven’t interacted on twitter since 2017 :,(
But now we have the lake effect kid EP
LAKE EFFECT KID EP
“I love you Chicago, you make me feel so summer fling”.
Pete Wentz, you stress me the hell out.
“There’s a hole inside me the shape of you”
And the “im so sorrys”
Peter, I am ,, so sad for u.
Hm and that seems to be the end for now but wait , we still have a few more things to go over/discuss
We have a lot of things to unravel with “I’m sorry every songs about you” and lyrical analysis so buckle up times two.
So the reason why I kept referencing “I’m sorry every song’s about you” was because in 2016 when mikey was performing with the band waterparks and Fall out boy happened to be at that same reading and leeds festival as them. the same reading and leeds festival where pete said “I’m sorry. Every single song is about you.”
SO IMAGINE!!! IMAGINE !!! WHY DID PETE DO THAT aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Thanks to twitter user @hurleyswentz they made a comparison between pete’s handwriting from ab/ap to mikey’s “fucked” arm and
they also did the same comparison for mikey’s “easy” arm.
So I feel like this further proves that mikey was fucked and easy according to pete :p
Also for the music video in america’s suitehearts, cassadee pope was the girl in the m/v, she wore glasses and had straight hair and people often compared her to mikey which I never saw until I watched the music video and saw that she avoid cameras and hated getting photographed similar to how mikey and pete refused to be photographed together. Maybe it was mikey’s idea all along and pete just went along with it :o
Anyways some more song analysis!!!
Carpal Tunnel of Love
“And we shake, shake, shake the hips in relationships,”
Saying that the relationship is based around sex.
“And we might have started singing just a little soon”
Starting something too soon usually means that it won’t last long or that it’s doomed to fail. In this case, it’s their relationship. Pete is realizing this and is starting to regret jumping into this fling with Mikey so quickly.
“Robbing lips, kissing banks under this moon”
Robbing also means stealing so stealing kisses so like… in terms of like a secret relationship, ya know??? And kissing banks as in falling in love with material things. Plus this term is a play on the term, “robbing banks, kissing lips.” :p
“It was ice cream headaches and sweet avalanche
When the pearls in our shells got up to dance”
“ice cream headaches” or in other terms a brain freeze is like when you have too much of a good thing. pearls are formed when a piece of sand gets inside of an oyster and it irritates the oyster, turning it into a pearl. so in this case, pete is saying that too much of mikey and too much of a good thing (so like this relationship) and this causes problems in the relationship that feel crushing and/or suffocating but despite all of that, it’s still sweet, it’s still good and it’s fun and it turns into something that’s beautiful.
Thnks Fr Th Mmrs
“And I want these words to make things right
But it’s the wrongs that make the words come to life”
Pete wants this song to seem like an apology to Mikey. But all the wrongs are what makes his songs and makes up his lyrics so without the faults in what Mikey/Pete have done, he wouldn’t be able to write this apology.
“One night and one more time
Thanks for the memories, even though they weren’t so great”
What Mikey and Pete had was great, it was a summer fling, it was doomed from the start. But for that last night together, Pete would replay their memories and all the times that they’ve had together. And when looking back, he realizes all the things that went wrong and what could have been fixed if things have gone differently than what went down.
“He tastes like you
This could be a callout to one of pete’s exes but erm, yeah LMAO.
“Been looking forward to the future
But my eyesight is going bad
And this crystal
It’s always cloudy except for (Except for…)
When you look into the past (Look into the past…)”
During that summer, Pete was looking forward to his future with Mikey but as time went on, he started realizing that what they had could only last as a summer fling. He could only see the past and the times he had with mikey but he can’t see them having a future together anymore.
“One night stand…
One night stand off!”
This was taken directly from his livejournal but this could be interpreted as Petekey as well so .
One night stands are hookups, you fuck, then you leave, that’s it, no emotional attachment or anything. Pete knew that he an Mikey were supposed to be a summer thing, nothing more. He knows that, he knows that they can’t fall in love so he pushed him away as an attempt to spare his own feelings or it can be seen that he’s torn between knowing that he can’t fall for mikey but falling in love with him anyways.
“Collecting page six lovers”
pete said on genius that this line referenced page six as a gossip column. during the Summer of Like many rumours were flying about Pete and Mikeys relationship.
“Get me out of my mind and get you out of those clothes
I’m a liner away from getting you into the mood, whoa”
Get me out of my mind could mean that pete and mikey using this relationship as a way to relieve stress and using each other as therapists of sorts while on tour or that they use each other for sex as a way to get pete’s mind off of things. He’s also saying that mikey is “EASY” and that he can get mikey into the mood with just his words.
I’m Like A Lawyer…
“I only keep myself this sick in the head ‘Cause I know how the words get you off”
Pete felt guilty over breaking off what he had with Mikey and how feelings bad and guilty (sick in the head) is like punishing himself for hurting Mikey.
“We’re the new face of failure
Prettier and younger, but not any better off
At best, at best”
Pete is ‘prettier and younger’ but he still finds himself to be a failure or not any better off because ehe is still alone and miserable without Mikey.
“ Me and you, setting in a honeymoon
If I woke up next to you, if I woke up next to you”
This is where Pete fantasizes about life with Mikey. What could have been if they had met at the right time if the circumstances were different. Getting to fall asleep next to each and wake up together. Which could also hint at that during their time in the summer, they would often leave the other alone in their bunk before the other woke up due to busy/different schedules from warped and being together and married would often prevent things like that happening again.
“The best way to make it through with hearts and wrists intact
Is to realize two out of three ain’t bad, ain’t bad”
The ‘two out of three ain’t bad’ part is a reference from another song which goes like this
“I want you, I need you
But-there ain’t no way I’m ever gonna love you
Now don’t be sad
‘Cause two out of three ain’t bad”
This part is basically that the best way to get though their fling without harming himself or getting his heart broken was to force himself to not love mikey and to keep their fling to what it is, friends with benefits type thing. which isn’t good for either of them as that fails and they are seemingly both hurt from this.
The Take Over, The Breaks Over
“But don’t pretend you ever forgot about me
Don’t pretend you ever forgot about me”
Pete is telling “you” aka Mikey not to pretend like he’s forgotten him or forgotten what they’ve had. Don’t pretend that he was just another guy on warped.
“ Wouldn’t you rather be a widow than a divorcee?”
This kind of implies that they never really broke up and that they just left things unfinished, leaving them the way that they were as if they were frozen in time. They agreed to stop seeing each other so the widow part would suggest that the other person is “dead” but in this case, they aren’t dead just not in each other’s lives anymore. Pete is saying that this is better than being “dirvorced” or broken up and having to say goodbye to each other and signifying that they would never see each other again.
“People will dissect us till this doesn’t mean a thing anymore”
Pete and Mikey were really big in the scene at the time, their fans were constantly picking apart all the little things that they would do with each other (*nervous laughter*) and this could be part of the reason as to why they tried so hard to keep themselves from the public eye because if everyone picked apart their relationship and figured it out, it wouldn’t be special anymore and would be a waste of time to have this so called “summer fling”.
“We do it in the dark.
With smiles on our faces
We’re dropped and well concealed+
In secret places”
We already know how secretive pete and mikey were about their relationship, not wanting to get photographed and going as far as hiring a bodyguard to keep fans from talking with them, and avoid talking about each other in interviews when it became a bit more obvious that they were closer with each other than they let on. In a lot of pete’s journal entries, he would write these the entries or the events he wrote in the entry would take place after dark.
Fourth of July
“You and I were, you and I were fire, fire, fireworks
That went off too soon”
This means that their relationship was fast, hot, spicy, all things great and good with the world but this soon fizzled. The timing wasn’t right, it was too bright and burned way too fast.
“And I miss you in the June gloom, too”
Summer reference!! We love those too :p
Warped was during the summer, as in june, ya know? And this could mean that pete is reminiscing on all the good times they had during the summer. Missing mikey as the summers go by.
“I’ll be as honest as you let me
I miss your early morning company
If you get me
You are my favorite ‘what if’
You are my best ‘I’ll never know’”
Ok but that “if you get me” part is super gay. But like
Lets focus on the “you are my favorite what if, you are my best ill never know”
Pete wonders what they could have been, it’s been referenced in other songs as well. He ponders the possibilities of his future if things would have been different.
“And I’m starting to forget
Just what summer ever meant to you
What did it ever mean to you?”
Another summer reference lets fucking GOOOOO and it’s like pete asking himself and doubting if the summer ever meant anything to mikey. Its been so long after that one summer, were pete’s feelings ever reciprocated? Did he ever ask? They don’t ever talk about as this seems taboo.
“Oh, I’m sorry, I didn’t mean any of it
I just got too lonely, lonely, whoa
In between being young and being right
You were my Versailles at night”
Looking back at it, we know that pete and mikey were at their lows or were about to hit their lows in terms of their mental health. So the first line could be either them trying to cover up, and trying to make excuses. If it’s from pete’s perspective then it’s most def about a cover up, a lie, he didn’t mean the breakup, he didn’t mean the hurtful things he said to mikey. If it’s from mikey’s perspective, it could be something that he said to pete that stuck with pete and that pete couldn’t shake. The timing was just wrong. Maybe they did belong together, maybe they were meant to be, if only the timing was right, maybe things would have been different. Also the palace of Versailles is very beautiful and fireworks go off in celebration at night and the “at night” bit could be like how it was meant in the takes over. They were in the dark, hidden, and out of sight.
“And all my thoughts of you
They could heat or cool the room
And no, don’t tell me you cried
Oh honey, you don’t have to lie.”
So when he thinks of this perso (mikey) his feelings about this person are both extreme love, passion, happiness (heat) ad extreme bitterness, and anger (cold). “don’t tell me you cried.” Pete is being the shoulder that the other person cries on, the person who just broke his heart saying that he loved this person more than the person loves him.
“I wish I’d known how much you loved me
I wish I cared enough to know
I’m sorry every song’s about you
The torture of small talk with someone you used to love”
Pete and mikey are still friends, they tweet at each other to wish happy birthday, give each other green tea kitkits when they fly out to japan, etc. but like, what do you say to the person that you were madly in love with?
Uhhh and yah, I think that’s all for today :P until next time !
also i am going to give credit where credit is due and will be linking all the sources for all this :3